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BBC Debate: We are seeing a societal decline of law and order – Nigel Farage

Parties put forward solutions to knife crime at debate

Crime is the last theme of the BBC’s debate, with one audience member raising the issue of knife crime.

The Green Party’s Carla Denyer says not all crime can be tackled by being “tough”, explaining a generation of young people have grown up with services like youth centres closing.

Nigel Farage says “stop and search” must be done “in a very tough way”.

“We are seeing a societal decline of law and order in this country,” he says.

The Liberal Democrats’ Daisy Cooper says the model of policing must be changed, with more community policing engaging with families and faith groups.

She says stop and search can be useful, but “suspicion-less” deployment of it has been used to target people.

Penny Mordaunt, the Conservatives Commons leader, says knife crime in London is “top of the list”, but the host points out the West Midlands has a higher rate.

“We need more police and we need police who are embedded in communities,” she says.

Labour’s Angela Rayner says education and reversing cuts to neighbourhood policing is needed.

Rhun ap Iorwerth, of Plaid Cymru, says decision-making should be made closer to communities, calling for more devolution.

Stephen Flynn, of the Scottish National Party, says tackling poverty as a driver of crime is required, and those in poverty have been failed by the government.


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